Logic Seminar

The seminar is usually on Mondays, from 13:30 to 15:00. The location is the Institute of Mathematics, Žitná 25, in the lecture hall on the ground floor of the rear building. The programme is announced via the mailing list.


Monday 7th October, 1:30pm - Neil Thapen, "The weak pigeonhole principle over T^1_2 and a random restriction"

I will discuss some recent work related to a long-standing problem about the strength of the bounded arithmetic hierarchy. The problem is this: the theory T^i_2 has induction for \Sigma^b_i (that is, bounded \Sigma_i) formulas. Are strictly more \forall \Sigma^b_1 sentences provable in T^{i+1}_2 than in T^i_2? It is open for all i >= 2.

Recently some separations have been shown for theories slightly weaker than T^2_2, involving the weak pigeonhole principle and related to Jerabek's theories of approximate counting. I will describe some joint work with Albert Atserias where we show that T^1_2 plus the surjective weak pigeonhole principle for polynomial time functions does not prove a certain \forall \Sigma^b_1 sentence HOP. HOP, roughly speaking, asserts that every total order on a bounded interval must have a least element.

The result follows from a purely complexity-theoretic lemma where we show that a certain decision tree, representing the computation of a polynomial time machine with an oracle for an ordering, is drastically simplified under a randomly chosen partial ordering.

Since there are likely to be people in the audience who are not familiar with bounded arithmetic, I will begin slowly with an introduction to the area and the problem.


The logic seminar is intended for people doing research in mathematical logic, including doctoral students. Talks are given by regular participants and guests on their own work as well as on interesting recent developments in the field. The prevailing themes in recent years are proof complexity, bounded arithmetic and logical aspects of computational complexity theory in general. Regular participants include members of the logic group, including a number of postdoctoral visitors and Ph.D. students. The seminars are conducted in English unless all participants speak Czech (which seems to never happen).

There is also a student logic seminar at Charles University, intended for undergraduate students.

The seminar has been organized continuously since the early 1970s, first by Petr Hájek for more than twenty years, from the early 90s until the summer of 2008 mostly by Jan Krajíček, and since fall 2008 by Neil Thapen.

Kód předmětu (MFF UK): AIL056 (zimní semestr) a AIL080 (letní semestr)


Past programme

Programme archive for summer 2008 - 2010

Programme archive for 1995 - summer 2008


Auxiliary Links

Fall schools

Colloquia lectures

Web connections

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Jech's library of preprints/reprints in set theory is available to students in our department

Baby logic seminar



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